Comments on: Being Faithful to Scripture in God’s Creation: Taking a Second Look at Christian Homosexuality

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By: Hero

Hero — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:16:02 +0000

I was once a gay and now that I have come to the knowledge that being a gay won’t please God and the punishment of sin is death and being a gay is living in a sinful nature I repent and draw near to the Lord Jesus Christ, receive Him as my own Lord and Savior and I experienced an unbelievable experience that I become transformed and renewed individual loved by God. I will say that the Lord loves gay people or any homosexual individual that’s why He want them to come to the knowledge of Him and be BORN Again means to be transformed renewed and saved by the loving grace of God. Being born again is an individual who turn away from sin and draw near to God. I believe that no gay people can say to himself or stand and declare that he doesn’t have any desire to have relation or sex with same sex which a very sinful desire that the Lord hates. The Lord died on the cross to redeemed us from sin and I believed if a gay person really want to accept the Lord as his own Lord and Savior he will turn away from sin and confess it to God and God is faithful to forgive his sin and CLEANSE him from all iniquities. 1 John 1:9. I believe that those who truly accept the Lord will turn away from sin. I am now a renewed man of God I have a wife and a boy child. I received the forgiveness of God and now living a happy life.

By: John

John — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:41:54 +0000

Me thinks that you self-righteous dudes should check out a book titled Dirt Sex and Greed by William Countryman who is a committed Anglican who REALLY did his homework.

That is he did a thorough study of the “Old” Testament, and the various cultural contexts in which the now archaic “purity” laws came into being.

This essay was written as a positive response to that book, and as a necessary antidote to self-righteous dudes like you.

http://www.dabase.org/freersex.htm

Plus a related essay (and book) on emotional-sexual Understanding.

http://www.dabase.org/2armP1.htm#ch1

By: Sarah Gassel

Sarah Gassel — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:54:13 +0000

I read this article a few days ago and never intended to comment, but something in 2 Timothy that I read today brought me back.

Here is the verse: “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” (4:3)

I think the time has come. It is easy to follow the trends of this world, especially in a time when being a Christian is increasingly unpopular, but it is perhaps less easy to resist the temptation to twist scripture to suit what the world and even one’s own self wants to hear.

I take particular issue with your treatment of Leviticus Chapter 20. There is a list of sins, and some are punishable by death and some are not. Among those punishable by the death are the following: sacrificing a child to Molech, a false god (20:1), cursing one’s parents (20:9), adultery (20:10), sleeping with one’s own father’s wife (20:11), sleeping with one’s daughter-in-law (20:12), a man sleeping with a man (20:13), marrying both a woman and her daughter (20:14), bestiality (20:15-16) and a man or woman who is a medium or a spiritist (20:27).

I am not at all implying that these laws or punishments should be in place. But I think that the fact that these sins are listed together, all with capital punishment, makes the wrongness of the acts apparent. Are there any other sins listed in Leviticus 20, which are punishable by death, which are not still immoral? Adultery was wrong in the time of Moses and it is wrong today. Can not the same be said for homosexual acts?

To relate to your article, was violating kosher laws or having an unwanted sexual discharge also punishable by death in the time of Moses? (actual question, I did not search Leviticus)

Finally, you say “God has created us and our sexuality good, and this statement applies to gay people as well as straight ones.” It is my view that when God created Adam and Eve, both they and their sexuality were good. But throughout the course of human history, human sexuality has frequently led to immorality, and straight people today have issues with everything from promiscuity to pornography. It seems that keeping our sexuality “good” is a constant struggle. I have trouble buying your final point that if someone is born with a certain desire, it is ok, because God made them that way. People are born sinful, and it is by the grace of God that they are saved, not by waiting for Christians to approve of their sin.

By: Brittany

Brittany — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:25:29 +0000

I have many friends who say they have been saved from homosexuality once they gave their lives over to Jesus. They say it did not happen all at once but slowly as they beagan to go into their relationship with God deeper. They are all doing very well, one of them has a wife with his first child on the way. I know that homosexuality is a sin, but we are all sinners and we are all guilty of one sin or another. To cast out one group of people completely is actually turning them away from God. Unfortunately some people are born gay, because we are all birthed into sin. I feel really bad for them because it is going to be hard struggle but if they call on Jesus I know he will hear them and guide them through.

By: Dan Davis

Dan Davis — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:27:57 +0000

Scripture condemns homosexuality as it condemns all other sin. It’s amusing how you glaze over passages that blatantly state this. 1 Timothy 1:10 lists homosexuals along with murders,

1 Cor. 6 says “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. ” this is followed by “And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

Christians can struggle with homosexuality, but they cannot embrace it. If they embrace their sin, they are not embracing Christ. Christ calls us to die to self, and to live for him – not for our own sinful desires. As this passage shows, when the Holy Spirit opens our eyes we begin a continual process of letting go of what we _were_, we do not embrace _our identity_, but find our identity _in Christ_.

We are called to love those who are homosexuals, but in no way are we to nod in approval of their life style.

What you say of Romans 1 is off. Because of their idolatry, God gives them over to their sin. It is NOT addressing these sins as idolatry, but again, states that they are committing them because God himself “gave them up” – He pushed them away from himself. If we switch this verse around, and men were to worship God as they should worship Him – then God wouldn’t be giving them up to these sins. That is, Iff we are worshipping God as we should (If we are saved by Christ’s blood and living _through_ Him), Then we will not embrace homosexuality.

Romans 1 is very clear about homosexuality – i fail to see how you pass it up without hitting a brick wall.

By: Philip

Philip — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:38:52 +0000

Hey, it would be great if this article could be linked to the main page. Let’s get the discussion going.